Posted by: rotenochsen | May 7, 2009


May. 7th, 2009 | 11:42 am

For those of you with short memory spans I will attempt to explain how the Speaker of the House of Representatives has changed he “tune” on National security and is lying about it.
This post includes two excerpts from different sources. The first is the detailed explanation by The Rasmussen Report of the Pelosi attempt to form a “hatchet” hearing on water boarding.Then the second quote is directly from a post by Congressman Porter Goss, who in 2002 attended a meeting with the CIA to be briefed on the steps that were being taken to extract information from captured AL Qaeda terrorists to protect the USA from another 9/11.
Mr. Goss, then a Congressman, attended the meeting as Chairman of the Congressional House Intelligence Committee. He was accompanied by The chairs and the ranking minority members of the House and Senate intelligence committees, known as the Gang of Four, were briefed that the CIA was holding and interrogating high-value terrorists.
Congressman Goss was also director of the CIA from September 2004 to May 2006. He was chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence from 1997 to 2004.

The lie that Pelosi is trying to legitimize is that she was not properly informed how or when the “water boarding” was to be used as this quote from an article written by Debra J. Sanders in the Rasmussen Report will illustrate.
“House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had been pushing for a “truth commission”(aka,kangaroo court show trials) to investigate the CIA’s use of “enhanced interrogation” techniques like waterboarding — until Republicans started shining the spotlight on Pelosi herself. Now she is not so adamant. The words in brackets are mine.Spokesman Brendan Daly told me that Pelosi wants a truth commission, “but she still realizes the political reality” — as in the opposition of President Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

The rest of the reality may well be this: Pelosi knew that White House lawyers had sanctioned waterboarding in 2002 — and did not protest.

According to the Senate Intelligence committee, the CIA briefed Pelosi, then the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, on the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah — who was waterboarded — in 2002.

The Washington Post reported in 2007 that the 2002 briefing provided Pelosi and company with a “virtual tour” of interrogation techniques. At the time of the story, a congressional source speaking for Pelosi, however, told the Post that Pelosi thought waterboarding was in the planning stages. The source admitted Pelosi did not object.

Who then is Pelosi to go after Bush lawyers for sanctioning waterboarding, which she now refers to as torture? This is what Pelosi told reporters last week: “We were not — I repeat — we were not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used.” Yes, the Bush Office of Legal Counsel said the techniques “could be used,” she explained, “but not that they would.”

So Pelosi thought that just because the Bushies were sticking out their necks and authorizing the CIA’s use of waterboarding, that did not mean the CIA would use it. And the Democrats called George W. Bush dim and ineffective?

Note that Pelosi used the term “enhanced interrogation methods” when referring to her CIA briefing. Not torture. On Tuesday, Pelosi added a twist to the story. She told CNN that the briefers “said they had a legal opinion they said they weren’t going to use and when they did they would come back to Congress to report to us on that.”

Daly added, “There’s really not a whole lot you can do when you’re being briefed” and you’re a member of the minority. Then what is the point of having a bipartisan intelligence committee? Why not just buy a rubber stamp? Porter Goss, the House Intelligence Committee chairman in 2002 who went on to become director of the CIA has a different recollection. As he wrote in the Washington Post, he, Pelosi and the ranking Senate Intelligence Committee members were briefed extensively, “understood what the CIA was doing,” and “gave the CIA our bipartisan support.”

To counter the actions and statements that Speaker Pelosi( the marxist from the Bay)has used to try to “buffalo” the voting public. Mr. Goss posted this article.
“In the fall of 2002, while I was chairman of the House intelligence committee, senior members of Congress were briefed on the CIA’s “High Value Terrorist Program,” including the development of “enhanced interrogation techniques” and what those techniques were. This was not a one-time briefing but an ongoing subject with lots of back and forth between those members and the briefers.
Of course the Daily Kos followers and the rest of the far left will deny anything that the man they love to hate says. But here is what he has to say.

“Today, I am slack-jawed to read that members claim to have not understood that the techniques on which they were briefed were to actually be employed; or that specific techniques such as “waterboarding” were never mentioned. It must be hard for most Americans of common sense to imagine how a member of Congress can forget being told about the interrogations of Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed. In that case, though, perhaps it is not amnesia but political expedience.

Let me be clear. It is my recollection that:

? The chairs and the ranking minority members of the House and Senate intelligence committees, known as the Gang of Four, were briefed that the CIA was holding and interrogating high-value terrorists.

? We understood what the CIA was doing.

? We gave the CIA our bipartisan support.

? We gave the CIA funding to carry out its activities.

? On a bipartisan basis, we asked if the CIA needed more support from Congress to carry out its mission against al-Qaeda.

I do not recall a single objection from my colleagues. They did not vote to stop authorizing CIA funding. And for those who now reveal filed “memorandums for the record” suggesting concern, real concern should have been expressed immediately — to the committee chairs, the briefers, the House speaker or minority leader, the CIA director or the president’s national security adviser — and not quietly filed away in case the day came when the political winds shifted. And shifted they have”.

It is past time that “Queen” Pelosi be removed from her leadership role. She has demonstrated to me that she has only the interests of her left wing supporters in “Baghdad BY The Bay”. Not the interest of the red blooded, God loving Americans who want this Country free and safe. She should be sent home to her house on The hill by the voters, but I doubt she will!


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